In reply to Ineke, & anyone else who has wanted to listen to the journeys program on the internet, it seems that the BBC are having a little problem! For some reason they have been unable to load up the new programs that started last weekend (& one is by the deputy editor of Radio Oxford who is not best pleased!)
They are trying to fix it so you could check the website (bbc.co.uk/radio, 'listen again' facility) again later in the week. However I have requested a copy of the recording, primarily for Toni's mum to listen to, but if anyone else wants to borrow it (or maybe we can copy it?), you'd be welcome.